Monday, August 30, 2010

BEYOND BEINGNESS AND NON-BEINGNESS

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Here, there is nothing that is believed, so there is no one here who wants you to believe anything, either. Here, the invitation is to be free of all that you have been programmed, conditioned, acculturated, and domesticated to believe so that you can be free, period.

FROM A SITE VISITOR: Reading through the archives--found a pointer you quoted from Krishna about the absolute is beyond the beingness and the non-beingness. Don't get that at all--thought whatever i am always was and always will be, even if its not this body and mind and personality--explain please--in simple terms! Thanx in advance.

F.: First, set aside the understanding of "prior to consciousness" since the pointer is offered to those presently involved in the Is-ness. The pointer corrects many misconceptions about what happens post-manifestation, the first involving the misunderstood body-mind-personality triad.

Contrary to all dogma, and contrary to the desires of persons for continuity of that triad, the point is this: post-mahasamadhi, the plant-food-body elements shall return to the universal pool of elements;

the air shall be released from the space and shall return to the universal pool of air; and the conscious-energy shall slowly be released from the space and shall return to the universal pool of energy from which it manifested originally.

Because all is energy/matter and because neither energy nor matter can be created nor destroyed, nothing has ever been created and nothing has ever been destroyed. Prior to manifestation, the elements were, the air was, and the conscious-energy was (though not conscious-of at that point); post-manifestation the elements will be, the air will be, and the conscious-energy will be (though no longer being conscious-of).

However, the "personal" body as a specific form, along with the fiction-filled mind and the assumed personalities, shall all fade away. That specific space or body shall be no more.

The elements which temporary come together to form such a space shall come apart. The mind and personalities were only imagined anyway. No part of that triad shall survive intact in the Absolute or in "heaven" or in "hell" or in "limbo" or in any other geographic, extraterrestrial places that have been dreamed up by persons who want the triad (which they imagine themselves to be) to last for infinity.

Such misconceptions about the continuity of the triad are eliminated by those that understand Krishna's pointer. The Absolute is beyond their beingness, beyond the Is-ness, beyond the AM-ness.

The understanding that the Absolute is beyond this beingness is usually simple enough to grasp; often, seekers have more trouble understanding the part of the pointer which explains that the Absolute is beyond the non-beingness as well. Try to grasp an understanding of that teaching via this metaphor:

In the Absolute, there is no "is" or "is not" that can be associated with the post-Is-ness, with the post-AM-ness. If you drop an ice cube into a glass of hot water and the cube dissolves, can you rightly say, "That which I thought was a 'cube' now no longer is; instead, it is NOT?" No.

That would not be accurate. That which was misperceived to be a "cube" by those who do not understand H20 miss the point that the hydrogen and oxygen have not disappeared or been destroyed. It cannot be said that they are NOT. They exist though they are no longer appearing in the temporary form of the "cube."

Can you rightly say, "Well then, the cube still IS"? No. That would not be an accurate statement either.

All that can be said accurately is, "That which I thought the cube to be is not what the cube was at all. What I thought it was has disappeared from view, but what it really is, was, and always shall be... that still IS."

The cube in no longer BEING, but it cannot be said accurately that it is NOT-BEING because the H2O that it was at its core still is. Similarly, post-mahasamadhi, the conscious-energy still is, but there is no conscious-of-ness any longer; therefore, there is no perceiving any longer, and there is no misperceiving any longer.

Since (during the manifestation) there was only witnessing anyway, post-manifestation there is no longer any witnessing, true, but it cannot be said accurately that "that which was witnessing now no longer is...no longer exists...no longer has beingness...now it is just not-being."

The conscious-energy remains, it still IS, though it is no longer witnessing at all; in fact, that energy's potential to witness, were it to be pulled into the manifestation cycle again, remains. To say it does not remain, to say it is non-being, is not factual either.

Yet what remains (Awareness) is not being conscious of. What remains is beyond the being conscious-of-ness that was, temporarily, and is also beyond the not-being-conscious-of-ness that was manifested at the time the pointer about being and non-being was offered.

The key is to understand that the conscious-energy, post-manifestation, remains because energy cannot "not be"; yet it is also to be understood that it is no longer being conscious-of. There is the "no-being," the "non-beingness."

Call the non-manifested consciousness and the eventually un-manifested consciousness "Potential Consciousness." As Awareness, the consciousness is not-being conscious of, is not being as it "was" temporarily when manifested; thus, the Absolute is, but it is beyond beingness and non-beingness.

Please enter the silence of contemplation.

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